[rabbitmq-discuss] PPA debs restart rabbit

[Aaron Westendorf]

Any update on the PPA hosting archived versions?  It's becoming very
painful to use Salt or any other CMS when we want to freeze to a specific
version. Fixing that problem would allow us to get past the issue of the
deb restarting the service.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Aaron Westendorf <aaron at agoragames.com>
wrote:

> We just discovered today that this is further complicated because the PPA
> is only hosting the current version, so Salt fails when trying to apply the
> ruleset and ensure the version we froze is installed.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Aaron Westendorf <aaron at agoragames.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Even "start on first install" has
>> problems in that there may be other preconditions yet to be set, though it
>> is less problematic than automatically restarting.
>>
>> For now, I've changed our Salt states to freeze to a specific version so
>> that we won't be surprised by a process restart.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Gavin M. Roy <gavinmroy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe he's saying that when you install the deb (or upgrade it) it
>>> automatically starts or restarts rabbitmq-server, causing less than
>>> desirable behavior.
>>>
>>> From: Simon MacMullen simon at rabbitmq.com
>>> Reply: Discussions about RabbitMQ rabbitmq-discuss at lists.rabbitmq.com
>>> Date: June 20, 2014 at 1:07:33 PM
>>> To: Discussions about RabbitMQ rabbitmq-discuss at lists.rabbitmq.com, Aaron
>>> Westendorf aaron at agoragames.com
>>> Subject:  Re: [rabbitmq-discuss] PPA debs restart rabbit
>>>
>>> On 17/06/14 15:54, Aaron Westendorf wrote:
>>> > We're using the PPA for rabbit but the current debian files are not
>>> > suitable for production deployments because they stop and restart the
>>> > process. I understand the desire to start the process if it was not
>>> > already running, but embedding the restart logic in the deb means that
>>> > users have no control over the process. As it is very common to use
>>> the
>>> > PPA within the context of a configuration management system (Salt,
>>> Chef,
>>> > etc), it would be best to leave that decision up to the user.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "restart logic"?
>>>
>>> I could see the point in adding some START_THE_SERVER variable to
>>> /etc/default/rabbitmq-server, would that help?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Simon
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Westendorf
>> Lead Engineer | Agora Games
>> aaron at agoragames.com
>>
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>
> --
> Aaron Westendorf
> Lead Engineer | Agora Games
> aaron at agoragames.com
>



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Aaron Westendorf
Lead Engineer | Agora Games
aaron at agoragames.com
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