[rabbitmq-discuss] PPA debs restart rabbit

[Simon MacMullen]

I'm afraid we haven't had time to work on this.

Cheers, Simon

On 20/08/14 19:35, Aaron Westendorf wrote:
> Any update on the PPA hosting archived versions?  It's becoming very
> painful to use Salt or any other CMS when we want to freeze to a
> specific version. Fixing that problem would allow us to get past the
> issue of the deb restarting the service.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Aaron Westendorf <aaron at agoragames.com
> <mailto:aaron at agoragames.com>> wrote:
>
>     We just discovered today that this is further complicated because
>     the PPA is only hosting the current version, so Salt fails when
>     trying to apply the ruleset and ensure the version we froze is
>     installed.
>
>
>     On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Aaron Westendorf
>     <aaron at agoragames.com <mailto:aaron at agoragames.com>> wrote:
>
>         Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Even "start on first install"
>         has problems in that there may be other preconditions yet to be
>         set, though it is less problematic than automatically restarting.
>
>         For now, I've changed our Salt states to freeze to a specific
>         version so that we won't be surprised by a process restart.
>
>
>         On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Gavin M. Roy
>         <gavinmroy at gmail.com <mailto:gavinmroy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I believe he’s saying that when you install the deb (or
>             upgrade it) it automatically starts or restarts
>             rabbitmq-server, causing less than desirable behavior.
>
>             From: Simon MacMullen simon at rabbitmq.com
>             <mailto:simon at rabbitmq.com>
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>             Date: June 20, 2014 at 1:07:33 PM
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>             <mailto:rabbitmq-discuss at lists.rabbitmq.com>, Aaron
>             Westendorf aaron at agoragames.com <mailto:aaron at agoragames.com>
>             Subject: Re: [rabbitmq-discuss] PPA debs restart rabbit
>
>>             On 17/06/14 15:54, Aaron Westendorf wrote:
>>             > We're using the PPA for rabbit but the current debian files are not
>>             > suitable for production deployments because they stop and restart the
>>             > process. I understand the desire to start the process if it was not
>>             > already running, but embedding the restart logic in the deb means that
>>             > users have no control over the process. As it is very common to use the
>>             > PPA within the context of a configuration management system (Salt, Chef,
>>             > etc), it would be best to leave that decision up to the user.
>>
>>             What do you mean by "restart logic"?
>>
>>             I could see the point in adding some START_THE_SERVER
>>             variable to
>>             /etc/default/rabbitmq-server, would that help?
>>
>>             Cheers, Simon
>>
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>>             Simon MacMullen
>>             RabbitMQ, Pivotal
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>         Aaron Westendorf
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>     Aaron Westendorf
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> Aaron Westendorf
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