[rabbitmq-discuss] lager vs sasl error log

Sat Mar 23 23:06:52 GMT 2013

Hey Tim, 

On Friday, 22 March 2013 at 07:55, Tim Watson wrote:

> Yeah with the current implementation you'd need to install your own log handler to make that work. In terms of changing the output format though, allowe to play devil's advocate for a moment...
> 
> The info/progress/error reports have a lot of data in them, process stats, stack traces, etc. are you wanting to see all that plonked on one single long line? Because I can see how that'd make parsing/aggregating easier, but not reading them. Does the lager output fit exactly with what you want (I've not looks at it or a couple of years)?
I don't think that everything needs to fit on one line. Longer traces which provide good context should probably remain as multiline entries. However, info items, for example, 

Mar 22 22:33:01 a rabbit3:  =INFO REPORT==== 22-Mar-2013::22:33:01 === 
Mar 22 22:33:01 a rabbit3:  Setting permissions for 'guest' in '/' to '.*', '.*', '.*' 

need not get split up over two lines.

With regard to longer traces, it would be nice if they could be handled in such a way that the generic portion of the call stack were trimmed down to something nearer the actual call site, rather that the entire generic call trace. As inspiration, logback mitigates the default "root cause comes last" behavior in Java with the reverse depth layout modifier (rEx{depth}). Lot's of hand waving here though.

Finally, I do have to concur with Gavin on people's perception about Rabbit due to logging - I've have many conversations with people over the years who ask why Rabbit has such bizare logging - I've generally answered that this is an Erlang-ism, and though it is strange, the server kind of serves its primary function well (i.e. delivering messages), so just put up with it.

Cheers,

Ben
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