[rabbitmq-discuss] does native web xmpp plugin in rabbitmq makes sense?

Thu Feb 4 09:11:45 GMT 2010

Thank you

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexis Richardson <
alexis.richardson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ben,
>
> I have taken the liberty of bcc'ing a couple of people with experience
> of both XMPP and AMQP.  They may have some better answers to your
> questions.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Ben Browitt <ben.browitt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Alexis
> >
> > Let's take Facebook chat as an example. You only have web interface with
> > xmpp or a custom protocol.
> > You have several servers that need to sync.
> > How RabbitMQ can be usefull in this scenario?
>
> I think there are several ways that RabbitMQ can be useful here.
> First of all though, please do note that 'xmpp chat' is after all
> *the* core use case for ejabberd and I would very much expect that it
> would do the best job in many of these cases.
>
> That said: RabbitMQ could be useful if you want to use a proprietary
> or 'custom' protocol, eg roll-your-own for the web interface, and a
> binary back end.  No use of XML.  And by the same token, RabbitMQ
> could be useful if you want to combine XMPP with this.
>
>
> > Do you mean that each IM
> > server will have a RabbitMQ node
> > that will send and receive sync messages from other RabbitMQ nodes on
> other
> > IM servers?
>
> Well, that is not a use case I had considered since I would imagine
> that XMPP IM servers should federate happily OOTB.
>
> I don't have much experience of the load patterns that might make a
> person favour AMQP in the way that Jack tweeted about here:
> http://tweeteorites.com/tweet/8198995879
>
> I keep a list of links here that you may find useful:
> http://delicious.com/alexisrichardson/rabbitmq+xmpp
>
> Best wishes
>
> alexis
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ben
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Alexis Richardson
> > <alexis.richardson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> Let me have a stab at this.  Others may have more useful comments.
> >>
> >> The main benefit of using RabbitMQ in these cases is twofold:
> >>
> >> 1. You want to do pubsub and/or queueing, perhaps "at scale"
> >>
> >> 2. You want to make use of a RabbitMQ client (or clients) for an
> >> 'integration scenario'.
> >>
> >> For example you may wish to combine both 1 and 2 to scale up your web
> >> or IM server by using queues to decouple user requests, from back end
> >> services that fulfil them, and then gather the results of the work on
> >> another queue before returning aggregate results to the user.
> >>
> >> Does this help?
> >>
> >> alexis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Ben Browitt <ben.browitt at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > There is the xmpp bridge with ejabberd but I wonder if native xmpp
> bosh
> >> > support in rabbitmq makes sense.
> >> > Let's say mochiweb accept xmpp http requests, a process per user
> receive
> >> > a
> >> > request and decide what to do with it.
> >> > Each process will use the amqp erlang client to create a channel and
> >> > then
> >> > exchanges, queues and bindings when needed.
> >> >
> >> > If mochiweb handles the connections and a plugin handles the logic do
> I
> >> > really gain anything by using rabbitmq?
> >> > I have a feeling that rabbitmq is the way to go but I don't know why.
> >> > What benefits do I get by using rabbitmq in this scenario?
> >> >
> >> > Ben
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >
> >
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