[rabbitmq-discuss] RabbitMQ HA with Redis

[Gustavo Aquino]

Alexis,

Why not one HA OOTB can be provided ? do you have one HP OOTB solution why
not HA ? May be one HA OOTB is not the best solution, and may be not attend
100% of users but may be 70% and it's sounds good for me not for you ?.

We know about one AMQP product that have a HA OOTB solution, and we are
trying this "HA OOTB" and this product will be used in CME. But can't do the
same with RabbitMQ.

I understand you, and you know my case, we are working in
microseconds/nanoseconds, may be this HA don't attend our requirements, but
it is one solutions and until now we don't have a good solution for HA using
Rabbit, about HP we don't need nothing to talk about RabbitMQ is very good
Broker routing 2.000.000 messages per second just inboud. But one good HA
solution is getting my sleep.

Do you know what we need,we talked about that is just one HA solution from
RabbitMQ with a very low latency, SLA and guarantee that no messages will be
loosed. O.S cluster or putting HA logic in our application is not a good
solution in our case.

Regards.




On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Alexis Richardson <
alexis.richardson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gustavo
>
> We are about to release an HA Guide including recommendations.  It's
> just being reviewed.
>
> It is not possible to provide "HA OOTB" because each system is
> slightly different.  If someone tells you that they can support HA
> OOTB, they are misleading you.  What is possible, and desirable, is a
> much simpler and more "OOTB like" experience for the main four or five
> HA cases.  For example, the Beetle project aims to solve for cases
> where idempotency is desired.  Your case might require a different
> optimisation.  E.g. sometimes latency needs to be below X
> microseconds, and sometimes it does not.
>
> We are in the business of providing long term commercial support for
> RabbitMQ based solutions, including where an SLA is in use.  Just let
> us know what solution or solutions you need.
>
> alexis
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Gustavo Aquino
> <aquino.gustavo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alexis,
> > I know that it's not the unique, you know how much I'm looking for a good
> HA
> > solutions using RabbitMQ. The problem is RabbitMQ doesn't have a default
> > solution out of the box for HA, and do you know companies need it, need a
> > commitment from product owner about HA. Do my own solution means,
> > the responsible of maintenance and evolution of this solutions is my, and
> it
> > is not my business it will be yours. Understand why I do this question
> about
> > support ?
> > I'm a community enthusiast, and work hard of lot of open projects and is
> a
> > pleasure if I can help to Rabbit HA, the point is today all products
> > inclusive cloud products need to have one HA solutions OTB, It's is the
> best
> > ? may be not but need to have it, and today we have a problem of using
> > RabbitMQ because it don't have it. So how can I put Rabbit on my core if
> > cannot guarantee a single SLA, or without putting responsible in side
> like
> > O.S cluster solution, OpenaIS, LVS shared storage or whatever.
> > Do you know any about the overhead in throughput using this Xing's
> Solution
> > ?
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Alexis Richardson
> > <alexis.richardson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Salvatore.
> >>
> >> Gustavo,
> >>
> >> We and the community will support good solutions and 'things that
> >> work'.  I like the approach, but as Salvatore suggested - it is not
> >> unique.
> >>
> >> alexis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Salvatore Sanfilippo <
> antirez at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Gustavo Aquino
> >> > <aquino.gustavo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So if RabbitMQ is a VMWare product and Redis it too, so do Rabbit
> >> >> support
> >> >> this HA approach ? :-)
> >> >
> >> > I think that surely it helps that this feature depends from another
> >> > VMWare product ;)
> >> > But my guess is that the way to go is to have such a support built-in
> >> > for RabbitMQ.
> >> >
> >> > Ciao,
> >> > Salvatore
> >> >
> >> >> Regars.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Jason J. W. Williams
> >> >> <jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Been reading the page since y'all started tweeting about it. :) It's
> >> >>> hard to tell how it works.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -J
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Alexis Richardson
> >> >>> <alexis.richardson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Hi everyone,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > It looks like Xing's Beetle project is up on Github:
> >> >>> > http://github.com/xing/beetle
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > There is a project page here: http://xing.github.com/beetle/
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Please take a look and share any comments you may have here :-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > alexis
> >> >>> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Salvatore 'antirez' Sanfilippo
> >> > http://invece.org
> >> >
> >> > "Once you have something that grows faster than education grows,
> >> > you’re always going to get a pop culture.", Alan Kay
> >> >
> >
> >
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