[rabbitmq-discuss] Uneven file descriptor use on HA Cluster

Fri Jan 27 17:07:13 GMT 2012

Hi. I'm afraid there's no way to do a live upgrade; all nodes must run 
the same version of RabbitMQ.

In general we prefer newer Erlang versions but R14B03 -> R15B will not 
make much of a difference.

RPM upgrade should be fine.

Cheers, Simon

On 27/01/12 16:30, Dave Seltzer wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> We have about 20 queues currently holding a total of 1.5 million
> messages. New messages come in at around 400 messages/second and stale
> messages are removed by TTL. All of the queues are set to x-ha-policy: all.
>
> Given that, I'm not surprised by volume of the File Handles and I've
> never once run out of them. So Rabbit is definitely doing something right!
>
> I was just a bit concerned about the discrepancy.
>
> I think I will upgrade to rule out any of the bugs fixed between 2.6.1
> and 2.7.1. Is there a way to do a live upgrade of an HA cluster? The
> documentation I've read says to Stop Server1, then Stop Server 2.
> Upgrade Server1 and Start it, then upgrade Server2 and Start it.
>
> I'm currently running RabbitMQ on Centos, installed from RPMS. Should I
> just do an RPM upgrade?
> I'm running on Erlang OTP R14B03. Is it important that I update the
> version of Erlang I'm running on?
>
> Thanks for your time!
>
> -Dave S
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Simon MacMullen <simon at rabbitmq.com
> <mailto:simon at rabbitmq.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi.
>
>     First of all, a few points: RabbitMQ will try to be smart about its
>     use of file descriptors for actual files - while one descriptor will
>     be used for each *connection*, it will keep file descriptors open
>     until it starts to run out, at which point it will start to swap them.
>
>     So seeing high numbers of file descriptors used with low numbers of
>     connections open is not a cause to panic - especially if you have
>     lots of queues.
>
>     Having said that, if you don't have lots of queues then that number
>     of FDs used is odd. And the asymmetry is odd too, unless you have
>     lots of non-mirrored queues on one node.
>
>     What does lsof say?
>
>     Finally, lots of bugs got fixed around HA between 2.6.1 and 2.7.1 so
>     it might be worth upgrading in case that helps.
>
>     Cheers, Simon
>
>
>     On 26/01/12 16:04, Dave Seltzer wrote:
>
>         Hello Everyone,
>
>         My google-fu is failing me, so maybe someone can help me out with an
>         issue I’ve been having.
>
>         I have two RabbitMQ 2.6.1 servers running on Centos 5.7. The two
>         servers
>         (QueuePool01 and QueuePool02) are running as a cluster as we have a
>         number of durable HA queues. I’m load-balancing client-interactions
>         using HAproxy on a third server.
>
>         I started noticing that QueuePool02was using ~800 out of 1024 file
>         descriptors (while QueuePool01 was only using ~50). So to
>         decrease the
>         risk of running out of descriptors I increase the number to 4096 and
>         restarted the node.
>
>         Now, again I see the number of file descriptors on QueuePool02
>         increasing even though QueuePool01 is remaining steady. Is it
>         possible
>         there is some sort of leak? Should the two servers tend to use
>         the same
>         number of file descriptors?
>
>         Here is what the current load looks like
>
>         Dave S
>
>
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