[rabbitmq-discuss] publishing inside a transaction before acking

Wed May 19 10:20:32 BST 2010

> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, vishnu <pathsny at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pathsny at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     well actually we're doing
>     basic.consume
> 
>     some stuff
>     tx.select
>     basic.publish
>     tx.commit
> 
>     some stuff
>     basic.ack
> 
>     currently, we're  trying to make sure the publish is inside a
>     transaction. 

Right, that fits the first pattern.  You will want to move the ack 
inside the transaction.  Then the ack of the old incoming message will 
happen atomically with publishing the outgoing message, and you won't 
see a published outgoing message along with an unacked incoming message.

      basic.consume

      some stuff
      tx.select
      basic.publish

      some stuff
      basic.ack
      tx.commit

Michael.

>     On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Michael Bridgen <mikeb at rabbitmq.com
>     <mailto:mikeb at rabbitmq.com>> wrote:
> 
>         vishnu wrote:
>          > we have scenarios where we pick up a message at a time,
>         perform a bunch
>          > of operations, publish a new message and then ack the message
>         we just
>          > picked up. Recently we have started to publish the new
>         message inside a
>          > transaction since this guarantees that the message is
>         persisted (it's a
>          > persistent message), since we want to minimize the odds of
>         message loss.
>          > However, we have started to notice that the original message
>         we pick up
>          > is marked as unacknowledged after we complete our process. Is
>         there
>          > something fundamentally wrong in what we're doing, or is our
>         approach
>          > correct?
> 
>         The approach is correct.  What order are you doing things in?
>         Transactions are implicitly started immediately after a commit or
>         rollback, and acknowledgements are transactional, so if you're
>         committing after the publish but before the ack --
> 
>         basic.publish(new_message)
>         tx.commit()
>         basic.ack(old_message)
> 
>         the state at this point is a published message, and an uncommitted
>         transaction with the ack.  If you do this:
> 
>         basic.publish(new_message)
>         basic.ack(old_message)
>         tx.commit()
> 
>         then you'll have atomically acked the old message and published
>         the new
>         one; which is, I believe, what you want.
> 
> 
>         Michael.
> 
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