<div dir="ltr"><div>Persistence might increase reliability when you plan to restart nodes and need to regain state. We don't do that.</div><div><br></div><div>We have clusters of 3 nodes across independent zones - forming an AWS region - and run with 3 regions, i.e. nine nodes in the core, replicating the processing of important messages across these core clusters. We have several other ancillary clusters for clients, proxies, etc., also in multiple regions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We target queue lengths of zero and are close most of the time. Anything else stands out like a black spot on a white sheet.</div><div><br></div><div>So we never restart nodes that die. Just sync in new ones. Actually we have not yet had any core nodes die in production.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Our Cassandra cluster of 18 nodes, 6 per region, synchronizes globally in less than 1 sec, and persists all of our message traffic in multiple useful inversions. We use a replication factor of 3 per region so every message has nine copies; important ones have many more due to message replication. We push and pull a lot from this cache.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Our instances are ridiculously small and inexpensive to run. We rely on this global, headless, mutually supporting rabbit army for our reliability, paired with a small Cassandra horde.</div><div><br></div>
<div>ml</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Hood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:0x6e6562@gmail.com" target="_blank">0x6e6562@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Laing, Michael<br>
<<a href="mailto:michael.laing@nytimes.com">michael.laing@nytimes.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> We rely on replication<br>
> instead; our persistence requirements are 'outsourced' to a global Cassandra<br>
> cluster.<br>
<br>
</div>Interesting. So you're using Rabbit for event notification rather than<br>
reliable(*) transfer of state?<br>
<br>
(*) For some value of reliable.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
rabbitmq-discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com">rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>