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It's also worth noting that it's been difficult to get the homebrew guys to accept updates and it is still on 2.7.1 (despite a 2.8.1 pull request).
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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, April 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Jason J. W. Williams wrote:</p>
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