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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Thanks much, Tim. That helps me
        make a decision. I always assign a message id so I can use
        message de-duplication at the subscriber side. I may use message
        command idempotence in some cases.<br>
        <br>
        Kind regards,<br>
        <br>
        Vaughn<br>
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    On 4/13/2011 8:02 AM, Tim Fox wrote:
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      RabbitMQ clients don't expose any sort of XA/JTA interface so
      enlisting a Rabbit local tx in a larger global XA tx won't be
      possible.<br>
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      You can probably find other ways to ensure atomicity by some kind
      of resend approach and detecting duplicates.<br>
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      On -10/01/37 20:59, Vaughn Vernon wrote:
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        <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hey,<br>
            <br>
            How do you recommend handling the case where a local
            application database transaction may commit or rollback, and
            you don't want to publish the event unless it commits? In
            other words:<br>
            <br>
            1 - application transaction begins<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 - application writes to database<br>
            &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 - rmq message published (publish must succeed for
            application transaction to succeed)<br>
            4 - application transaction commits; however, issue occurs,
            transaction does not complete; must prevent rmq publish<br>
            <br>
          </font></font><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Can't move #3
            after #4 because the possibility exists that rmq publish
            will fail and message will never be published.</font></font><br>
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            This points to 2pc of application and rmq, but unavailable
            for the application database. BTW, does rmq 2pc with other
            databases?<br>
            <br>
            Vaughn<br>
            <br>
            --<br>
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