[rabbitmq-discuss] Generating a Rabbitmq release

Jason J. W. Williams jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com
Fri Apr 13 17:08:21 BST 2012

Yes, but properly done, a Rabbit .pkg should install Erlang in such a way that only Rabbit so installed can see it.  I believe this is what the ejabberd pkg does. 

Also, near as I can tell Alvaro is trying to make this a reality with his own labor, and is simply running into issues with the build process. That seems like an effort worth supporting given the benefits. 


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On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:59, Matthew Sackman <matthew at rabbitmq.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 09:48:04AM -0600, Jason J. W. Williams wrote:
>> Personally I think a Mac .pkg would be incredibly beneficial to
>> regular developers (college students' needs are a side benefit I
>> think). Homebrew is only slightly less terrible than Macports as a
>> packaging system and there are a ton of devs using OS X as their dev
>> environment using neither as a result.
>> So it seems to me to be a leg up in an evaluation fight against
>> ActiveMQ, Redis, etc., for Rabbit to have a .pkg installer that drops
>> in the whole kit and kaboodle so the user can get started evaling it's
>> features, and a good thing overall.
> I can definitely see how it would help, and that it would solve this
> problem. However, it may introduce other problems. For example, if we
> have a package with an erlang distribution in it, what happens if it's
> used on a system which already has a system-wide erlang distribution? If
> we produce such an .pkg, and so does ejabberd, and so does riak, and a
> dev wants to use all three on the same machine, at the same time, how do
> they go about doing that? What happens if each of those packages ships a
> different version of Erlang? Do you try and get the different nodes to
> talk to each other etc etc?
> I can imagine we might end up producing such a thing. And it might very
> well help a number of users, and that is a good thing. But it probably
> will introduce problems which package managers were invented to solve.
> Again, the lack of sane package managers on certain platforms is the
> problem and everyone who tries to write software for those platforms
> ends up having to deal with these issues, which diverts developer effort
> from fixing bugs, or adding features. Sigh.
> Matthew
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